Wher eis the forum for the 2008 World Champs

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

The 2008 World Champs seems to have been announced, as being in Edmonton.

So, where is the CanoePolo Forum for this competition, so we can start exhanging information about it. ?

Come to that, who is bidding for the 2010 World Champs. I reckon it must be time for New Zealand to get it.

[Martijn]

The moment to put up a new forum for a championship is probably when there is info available..

So as long as nobody has good info, there is not much need to create an empty forum (imho).

I think that in the past, those forums where usually created when there was info posted in the general forum. So that there was something to put in the new forum..


Moved this thread to general polo, because it has nothing todo with the 2006 world championships.

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

The moment to put up a new forum for a championship is probably when there is info available..

So, are you saying we don't have ANY info available about the 2008 World Championships. That maybe they are not going to happen or something ?

Catch-22. Nowhere to post info about the 2008 World Championships, so no-one posts any info. No info yet, so we don't get a forum ?:confused:

Can I enquire, what is the cost in money and effort in setting up a forum now, rather than later ?

[Rich]

The 2008 World Championships are defently on, I will talk to the proper authorities asap, and get them to post the info, or i will post the information I can find myself.

Rich

[Martijn]

Nowhere to post info about the 2008 World Championships, so no-one posts any info. No info yet, so we don't get a forum ?:confused:


If you have info on the Worlds to share with us, please do..
And as long as there is no special subforum, all info can just get posted in the general polo forum..

[spike]

All that rich is saying is that he dose no that they are a go for sure, and that he will get the people with more info to post it, or post what he has himself.

What I know. The 2008 world champs are being held in a city (where I live) called Edmonton. It is located on the west part of Canada, in a province called Alberta. We are located very close to the mountains, and are a major city of around 1,000,000 people (might I add probably the most friendly 1,000,000 people you will ever meet. and I am not just saying that, they really are). The city itself is a very beautiful place, with lots and lots to do (including the worlds largest mall), also Edmonton is home to a last Varity of summer festival (we are even known as the festival city).Edmonton has a great culture as well, we have many funky places to see and check out while you are here, i asure you, you will be suprised by what we have to offer, (also the night life is great). It will be our summer during the world champs and you should expect a very, very nice venue, with the likely hood of great weather. I believe it will be held in a park in the middle of the city (Edmonton has more parkland then any other city in North America) called hawrelak park. If this is so it will be a good size venue with plenty of facilities closes at hand. It is a huge park so there is lots of room to throw balls, and do workouts. The river runs along side the park as well giving access also to that. Trails follow the river throughout the city incase one wanted to run for a warm-up and so on. Interims of details regarding the event I am not to sure, however I will do my best in the next while to find more specific details and post them. Thank you for your patients....I am sure they will be well worth the wait.

if you wish to have a look around at our city and what we have to offer here is the web page for our city www.Edmonton.ca (http://www.edmonton.ca/) (if you look hard you can find links to hawrelak park, the venue. it should be under "parks"). By goggling the name of the venue you should also get allot of info and photos, however be sure to use Canada goggle or yahoo.

plaese also keep in mind we are still 3 years away, and much is still being worked on. i mean the 2006 stuff just got posted, so i think we are doing very well, no? from all of us here we cant wait to welcome you and look forward to 08.

[John Cleese]

I remember a great John Cleese training firm about customer service.

The customer wanted to buy a purple widget.

Response from John Cleese, behind the shop counter.
"Funny. You're about the 15th person today to ask for one of those. but we don't stock them"
Customer - "why not"
Cleese - "Because there is no demand for them"

So, that's why there is no "World Games 2005" forum or "World Championships 2008"forum. Obviously, there is no demand for them (according to the "Powers that be"). Or is John Cleese running canoepolo.com now. Or maybe Sir Humphrey ?

[Mike]

Obviously, there is no demand for them (according to the "Powers that be"). Or is John Cleese running canoepolo.com now. Or maybe Sir Humphrey ?

We have had a couple of Canadians on saying that there is no information yet for the Worlds, and only one person still asking for the information. I am sure that when there is information available from the Canadians, there will be a forum created. Until then, there is hardly any point in creating a forum. Or should we have one for the championships for the next 10 years? Why draw the line there, why not the next 20, 30, 40?

And resorting to petty insults diminishes your arguments somewhat.

Mike.

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

Point is, if you have a forum, the little bit of information there is currently will be there, and easy to find, and people will start to add to it. And start to ask questions about accommodation, information for planning lead up tournaments, holidays around there etc.

People in Australia will already be planning for their possible participation in Edmonton. They want to know what it will cost for accommodation etc. Howmuch do they need to start saving.

This sort ofdiscussion would be just lost in the general morass of the GENERALforum, people won't bother looking or bother posting.

And what would be the harm/cost in having a forum to discuss what is proposed for the 2010 World Championships. I'm sure there could be some lively debate there too. (I'd want to push for New Zealand, or Taipei, or South Africa. Or maybe Bali ?). But if you don't have forum, my guess is there won't be much discussion of it.

Wha tis the problem in having one, and what is the cost ?

[Mike]

So, Spike's post represented "No Information" ?


In relation to the actual competition, yes. He gave some good information on the city though.

[spike]

Its funny you should bring up supply and demand that is what I take in school (business). You see I agree all to well with your bit about there is demand so we should supply, the funny thing is it is very hard to carry, let alone supply a product that dose not yet exists. As I have stated earlier, we are working on getting things setup and running so you may have some info, and when it is at a point where we know the info is a sure thing and not just pipe dreams we will post it.

If you are worried about accommodations feel free to check the web page I gave you to start looking them up. Also if you wish to start budgeting please keep in mind it is 3 years away and much can change (our dollar gained 20% in about 2 years). I promise we will have info as soon as possible, but lets worry about planning for 2006 first, that would make sense right. Also if you have any questions and you cant find the answer on the forums, feel free to just send me a PM or an e-mail, or even post the specific question, there are lots of Canadians on the forums and I am sure we would be more than happy to could them for you.

[Patrick]

The customer wanted to buy a purple widget.

Response from John Cleese, behind the shop counter.
"Funny. You're about the 15th person today to ask for one of those. but we don't stock them"
Customer - "why not"
Cleese - "Because there is no demand for them"

And the corollary:

"Nobody goes there anymore 'cause it's too crowded" - Groucho Marx

[Brad]

The organisers are working hard on getting accurate information finalized for the 2008 Worlds in Edmonton. It was the same organization that just finished hosting the World Masters Games less than a month ago.

They have two very good competition sites within the city. I believe the plan is to use Hawrelak park. The park is a nice walk downhill from the University in Edmonton. The residence at the university is going to be available for teams to stay in if they choose. It is a very nice facility and meals would likely be available there. There are a few restaurants, pubs and a large grocery store within walking distance of the residence if you don't care for their food.
Right now the final dates for the competition are up in the air due to a conflict with another event. Everything had been tentatively scheduled including booking of the residences for teams to use, but as we are now trying to accomodate the request for change in dates they are not set.
There is also talk of pre-tournamnets. We are trying to balance the distances teams would have to travel with the chance to see some of our country and having adequate facilities to allow productive training. Most of the competiton would need to be from other countries as we do not have the depth of players that there is in other parts of the world.
I live in the next closest training center to Edmonton and it is 450 km away and approximately a 5 hour drive.
We are looking forward to hosting the World in 2008 and I am sure there will be lots of information available as soon as the dates get finalized.
If people have specific questions about the city, the area surrounding the city, our province or our country feel free to ask me.
I will do my best to get you whatever you need.
Brad

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

So, did you put together some sort of submission to win the right to host the 2008 champs ? do you think some people might be intereested in that submission ? Or is it top secret ?

[Brad]

I believe there was a package of information put together a few years ago when we were "bidding" for the right to host it. I believe other countries were also doing the same. I don't think it is a secret ... may just be tough to find. :-)

I do know that in addition to the package, there was a visit from an ICF representative to approve of the facilities.

I am not actually a part of the 2008 organizing comittee, but I have been a part of Canoe Polo in Canada for a little while and should be able to find information for most of the questions people would have.

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

I believe there was a package of information put together a few years ago when we were "bidding" for the right to host it. I believe other countries were also doing the same. I don't think it is a secret ... may just be tough to find. :-)


Which is exactly my point. Why not make it easy for everyone to have a look at? :bang:

[Harvey]

You seem like a really hard person to please RB. It's three years away. You can't even tell me that you got everything worked out for 06 worlds, so first things first, ok?

[Brad]

Look Mr. Ex Polo King, the bid was done three plus years ago on someones computer 500 km away from me and you expect me to just proiduce it???

It is not a secret, but guess what I have a job and so do the upcoming organizers. I am absolutely sure if someone asked for help in preparing a bid for a future Worlds we would bend over backwards helping them.
We are Canadians after all! :-)

I know this may not be Canadian, but I have read your posts and I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt ...
Maybe you just have a lot of free time on your hands now, but I am not sure that you posting on every forum and pissing off this number of people is helping the polo community.
Perhaps a review of your membership is in order.
BC

[RB-Ex-MrPolo]

Look Mr. Ex Polo King, the bid was done three plus years ago on someones computer 500 km away from me and you expect me to just proiduce it???

Whoaa.

No.

But you do get to the heart of the problem. These things are done, information is available, but it get's lost or hard to find. Simply put - Why not use canoepolo.com as the place to store that kind of info so that every one can see it if they want to ? Add to it.

But to make it a bit more useful, if there is any info, have a speific spot to put the info where people can find it easily. Or even know quickly that so far there is minimal info for the Edmonton 2008 World Champs. Eventually there will be a forum for Worlds 2008. Why not now ? (But then, there was no forum for World Games 2005 :mad: )

All I'm asking for is place to put info where it is easy to find, then ANYONE who finds some useful information can put it in there. I just don't get why people find this so much to ask for. The effort in providing it would be less than the effort people seem to be prepared to put in to say NO!

But, the very last thing I am doing is demanding that you produce information. Just have a spot for any information anyone does have, when they come across it.

Anyway, rest easy, I'm about to disappear again for a few months, so no need to worry.

[ruikp]

... I'm about to disappear again for a few months...
Going back to the Mental Institution? Hope there's no internet there!

lol

[Guest]

Maybe Richard Boult (or RB ex Mr- Polo) has finally run out of things to say and is now mugging up for his next barrage?

Going back to the Mental Institution? Hope there's no internet there!

lol

[ErikV]

Mr RB-EX-polo
I heard Martijn saying something like "Put it on the 'General Forum'."
I'am not sure but maybe it is a good idea?

[Ragenthecage]

I want to know if the 2008 calendar is going to be as good as the 2006 one! Go Juno win some gold stuff!!!!!