entry criteria WC 2006 ???

[Djorre]

Hi to all,

I've just read on the forums the WC 2006 will be held at the "Bosbaan" in Amsterdam, this is a course where normally sprint and rowing competitions and even wakeboard en waterski,... take place. (kind of like "Hazewinkel", Mechelen)

Correct me if I'm wrong but the entry criteria were invented because the WC in Amsterdam would be in swimming pools and therefore there could only be a limited number of teams. That sounded like a good reason to me, but now that the champs will be held at an olympic regatta-course,......

Why the hell keep these silly criteria that exclude a lot of the nations still in development !?!?!?!?


Greetz,
Djorre.

[AsgerS]

I fully agree, and as one of the "new" nations, I thank you for the comment. I will add though, that some nations have other reasons why they wish to limit the number of nations. Not that I agree, but I generally recognize the arguments.

Cheers, Asger.

[Roos]

Hi,

As a player I have heard this story a lot. The organisation did not limited the number of teams that is something from the ICF and counts for the next comming years and not only for Amsterdam. We are just unlucky to be the first one to organise the WC with these new rules.

This does not mean I am against or pro these rules. I just want to make clear it is not because of limitations in Amsterdam.

Erwin

[Djorre]

ok,

my mistake then, no insult meant to the organisers !!

It just has allways been presented and argumented like that,
so I wondered why the limitations were still standing if the situation had changed and, in theory, 50 or 60 teams could compete at a place that big.
(depending on how many pitches are installed, eg. like Essen that has about 100 teams competing in 3 days)

Greetz,
Djorre.

[Nick B]

Just wondering if anyone knew the intended dates for the 2006 worlds?

[sammy]

9th to 13th of august

[mrkeeg]

Look through the forum archives and you will find a few discussions on this topic . . . and I dare say, the great majority of opinions are AGAINST the new rules.

It is very tempting to criticize the new rules as an outsider who does not know or understand all the factors that the ICF considered in implementing them. Perhaps communicating these reasons to the CP community at large is where the ICF fell a short - the fault / unhappiness is due to lack of communication and understanding, and not with the rules themselves?

Just a thought.

*Deleting and cutting myself short before I rant or babble*

Keegan

[spike]

sorry off topic but you know what keegs, the girls must just love you, i mean look at you mr communication and all. nice work. ok i will shut up now, sorry about this again i just could not help it.

[mrkeeg]

I keep losing this post. I guess because it got moved. Though the title says "2006", it really is more of a general, far-reaching topic.

um. thanks chris. :hump:

[sp_edey]

Some rumor I heard(not sure where) is that after 2004 the Dutch and Canadian teams got bys into the WC regardless of where they placed in the ranks because of them being the host and future host nations of the next WC??? Is this true??

Clinton

[Petjeraketje]

Hi,

is there anyone who can say that he's sure that these entry rules are in force? If so, why? Canoe polo is still such a small sport, why don't we let countries in development grow? It's only good for the growth of the sport. Don't we all want canoe polo to grow and become a important sport? Just wondering.

Greetz Petjeraketje

[mrkeeg]

Hi Petjeraketje,

If you do a search of the forums you will find that your question has been asked many times. To his credit, Greg Smale has come on a few times and attempted to respond to some concerns. I think there is frustration among forum members that more answers and communication from ICF decision makers does not exist.

Keegan

[mrkeeg]

here is some more discussion Petjeraketje

http://www.canoepolo.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1169&page=1&pp=15

[c1slalom]

how can a few people put on a national championship (30 teams) in all places like austin texas and a country like the netherlands not run a 100 team worlds. i think it is about power at the higher levels- filling hungry ego's. "Remember when you close a lid to a box you cannot get anything out of it".

[ErikV]

As i know Ice-hockey has 2 Worlds. One for A-countries and one for B-countries. It is just an suggestion(?is it English?).

I am not a top-player with Worlds experience but maybe it will help.

[michielv]

ok,

my mistake then, no insult meant to the organisers !!

It just has allways been presented and argumented like that,
so I wondered why the limitations were still standing if the situation had changed and, in theory, 50 or 60 teams could compete at a place that big.
(depending on how many pitches are installed, eg. like Essen that has about 100 teams competing in 3 days)

Greetz,
Djorre.

Hi Djorre,

Like Erwin said: it's NOT the location that limits the amnount but the new rules which apply for the first time in Amsterdam. So changing the location from pools to outdoor does NOT have any influence on the amount of teams that can take part.

Please be fair and do not continue to ask why the number of teams are still limited because now the location has changed because these two things are not related. What asking this kind of questions does do is provoking posts like the one form c1slalom who is probably under the impression that the Dutch organisation is all about ego's whereas they simply are the first to have to organise a world championship according to the new rules.

Knowing the people involved I can safely say that these people are involved because they love the sport and not because they have a hungry ego.

So as as I am concerned this topic should be closed and any discussion about the new rules should be in the proper topic.

Cheers,

Michiel

[Martijn]

Thanks Michiel,

For pointing out that this discussion is not likely to contribute any further to the worlds2006 forum.
It's not a matter of the World Championships 2006 organisation, but a matter of current rules.
If people want to discuss the rules (again), be my guest, and start a new topic (or dig up an old one) in general polo.

Thanks.

Martijn