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the deacon
16-01-2004, 10:29 AM
What makes the difference from a good tournament and a great tournament? Does it depend on the number of playing fields, the number of teams participating, the quality level of the teams, the place where it is held, the quality of the organization, all of the above, or non of the above?
In today’s canoe polo playing world, there are many tournaments organized and played be it in London, Amsterdam, Sydney, Zurich, Setubal,Yepers, or Berlin. With scores of teams, different classes, and multiple or single playing fields.
But what makes the difference? To the teams, to the organizers? To the general public? To the single player in a team?
How many of us have travelled around the globe or at least around part of it, playing tournaments in the most different places imaginable? In swimming pools, lakes, canals and rivers. What memories do we bring back to savour? What would make us want to go “there” again?
I have noticed in the last poll that I have posted, that today, the main factors of “bending the rules” seems to be consensus of the vox populous, the absence of a scrutiniser during tournaments, followed by team boats and shirts not complying to uniformity. It seems that a lot of people have something to gripe over.
At the World International at Sydney in 1989, (where I had the pleasure of playing), there was no such problem, as all equipment was controlled, and if the teams were out of sync, they were made to comply to the rules, in ample time before the start, and the games then went on smoothly. This fact was well appreciated by all the teams present.
There are, I am sure, other great tournaments well organized around the globe, where rules are always enforced.
Keeping the above in mind, I think, however, that there are a lot of organizers who should “walk that extra mile” and concentrate on enforcing the rules, as this effort in the long run does make a difference to the overall outcome of the event.
These rules, clearly defined as an integral part of the tournament, should be enforced to the best of our organizing abilities.
I may add that whenever we organized tournaments in the past, it was a challenge for us to be able to abide by these rules, and make the games as much as a pleasure to visiting teams as possible. And every year we still tried harder. And the visiting teams always returned.
Our obligation as organizers, though, was to help teams comply by giving them a hand in doing so.
A scrutinizer, by the way, is just one more person in the organizing team, doing a specific task, like the time keeper, table official or scorekeeper does.
At our tournament, we always put on disposition a set of 8 same colour canoes to use (the turnover of changing canoes was always high due to breakages) in the event that visiting teams were either without canoes or did not have a complete set of same coloured ones to use.
The same goes for the players shirts: we always kept two sets of different coloured shirts for visiting teams to use. Also we kept supplied extra padding and tape for their canoes, if they were not according to rule compliance. Well padded canoes cause less damage to other boats and to players too.
I know that some would say that these efforts are an expense that not many could afford to do, but we thought that these expenses were justifiable for our effort to make that difference. Plus a lot of this additional material we got off local sponsors for free!
It is also very hard on the referees to control the game, with players not complying to unify their colours, as decisions are made on quick reaction times, and it is confusing to understand who is whom with these medley of differently coloured players. If players put themselves into the shoes of referees, they would understand better this problem and comply.
In the long run, it did not really cost us a great expense to comply with the above mentioned rules. it only took a positive effort to enforce them and then to make the teams comply with firmness and courtesy; in the long run, the means justified the end effort.
A small step forward, a big step ahead for the world game of canoe polo.
So why don’t all of us paddle together, and go that extra mile?

paul_s
16-01-2004, 05:08 PM
Why should we bother about a single shirt with a wrong color? Often national teams are playing so some club teams play mixed. Sometimes it is so cold that you need to wear extra gear. Of course we should all look the same, but it is not the end of the world if we don't.
I prefer the belgium tournaments: charleroi, mechelen, dikkebus and ieper. Good competition, nice poeple, lot of playing fields, camping site not to far from the pitches and good beer.
The german tournaments are good as well but they always make it a far to big problem if there is something wrong. Once one of our referees was 3 minutes late at Essen (my apologies). We had to pay a fine of 100 euros for this. Of course we should have been on time, but 100 euros is way out of line.
We should all just make sure we have a good time, canoepolo will get the big step ahead just getting more players and by getting known by all the people, instead of only the ones who play it.
Paul

Kris
16-01-2004, 06:41 PM
I agree with the first post.
Canoe polo as a sport deserves and needs credibility. How else do we encourage athletes, coaches and aministrators to participate?
If teams and players look shonky - especially at high profile international tournaments (I'm not talking about local leagues here) then canoe polo doesn't deserve the profile.
I've seen several posts about lack of players and how to encourage more to take part - even though canoe polo is not a professional sport we have to have the same mentality as a professional sport.
Going the extra mile at tournaments helps.
Long the live the extra mile!!!

Cheers
Kris

michielv
18-01-2004, 10:05 AM
Regarding team colours etc: I have to agree that if it looks more like the team is actually team (regardless of playing style) people tend to take the sports more seriously. That's why I always stressed to parents of junior players: right now you do not have to go out and buy all new gear and throw away your current helly hansen shirt etc. but if you do buy new equipment: make sure it is according to our club's colours!

Needless to say that of the three kids that got new gear, one came back with the correct colour (black shirt), one with a very dark blue shirt (which was definitely blue, not even black-ish) and one even showed up in white! *sigh* :withstp:

Then again, I have to agree with Paul here that some parts of the rules might be a bit nitpicking in some conditions. If it is very cold and people wear a wrongly coloured long sleeve shirt under their correctly coloured short sleeve shirt, is that the end of the world? I'd rather have a slightly bent rule in this sort of thing and have a good referee at the side of the pool than paddle against a team that has the 100% correct outfit but whose referee does not know which end of the whistle to blow.

the deacon
20-01-2004, 10:26 AM
So guys, where do we draw the line? If multi coloured shirts, canoes and helmets are no big deal, and various players turns up at a match equiped as they please, when will the sport be taken seriously by fans, organisers or players?
We want the sport to grow and stand tall with other team sports, in the eyes of the world, so we have to make a greater effort to show that a canoe polo game played in any country or continent is the same as everywhere else.
Have we ever seen at a football match, two teams turn up with different coloured shirts, or in a fast moving game like basketball, the players have different coloured shirts? I don't think so.
So I think that we have to be firm in our commitment of drawing the line and educating our club members also to conform to the ICF rules to the best of our capabilities, after all, the rules have been accepted by all nations and were written to aviod such problems from happening in the first place.
:cheers:

Menno
20-01-2004, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by the deacon
Have we ever seen at a football match, two teams turn up with different coloured shirts, or in a fast moving game like basketball, the players have different coloured shirts? I don't think so.


The costs involved are a bit different. Buying everything that is club specific (shirt, helm, etc) it is about 2 to 3 times the cost that a soccer player has...
When you want to draw a line you want to say something like Div I has to be totally according ICF rules. From those players you can assume they have commitment to there sport. If you're going to say everyone has to play according ICF rules (still talking about clothes offcourse) you make it hard for someone to start. I dont think you want that. It's nice if people notice canoepolo, but it would be shamefull when it dies because of to few new players...
Like Michielv stated in this or another topic, trying people to buy the same clothes when purchasing new clothes is the way to get people to play according ICF rules in lower divisions...

Menno

the deacon
20-01-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by Menno
The costs involved are a bit different. Buying everything that is club specific (shirt, helm, etc) it is about 2 to 3 times the cost that a soccer player has...
When you want to draw a line you want to say something like Div I has to be totally according ICF rules. From those players you can assume they have commitment to there sport. If you're going to say everyone has to play according ICF rules (still talking about clothes offcourse) you make it hard for someone to start. I dont think you want that. It's nice if people notice canoepolo, but it would be shamefull when it dies because of to few new players...
Like Michielv stated in this or another topic, trying people to buy the same clothes when purchasing new clothes is the way to get people to play according ICF rules in lower divisions...

Menno

Economic cotton tee shirts can be substituted for lycra with very little cost to either the club or the individual player. This can be a solution.