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wayne
30-12-2003, 07:10 PM
Well, the latest Div 1 was pretty good, not least because we took a few points. The ten minute halves are great - they remove the element of chance a bit, so the best team genuinely wins. Look at the Meridian/FOA game - 3-2 at half time, 8-2 at full time - very good game by the way, Meridian seem to do a lot of sprint training! More ten minute halves in the lower leagues now? Standard in Div I is the worst it's been for a very long time which is a pity, but whatyagonnado.

Cheers,

Paul

Curly
05-01-2004, 03:40 PM
I agree with Paul, that the current standard of div 1 is as low as it has been for some time.

I'm affraid that the loss of Humbersiders and Bere Forest this season have left a big gap between the top teams and the rest of div 1 - with "the rest" being of a simailar standard, giving rise to some even games being the result.

As for "whatyagonnado" I think that the burden has to fall to the newer and younger teams and their clubs to rise to the challenge and take on the more established teams.

People must realise that it is not impossible to compete with these teams, and in the next few years getting into the top half of Div 1 will be a distinct possibility for any team in Div 3 upwards that is prepared to put in some effort. (never quite as easy as it sounds!!)

With regard to the kind comment (not directed at me surely!!)
"Meridian seem to do a lot of sprint training!"
I'm affraid that on the European and World stages the speed of the Meridian team is quite average. It's just that the training levels at present in the British game are relatively low - (compered to the other major polo nations. Something that I think will catch up with us in future major championships.

sorry to waffle....
curly

nours
09-01-2004, 12:17 AM
hi every body i try to follow the gb div1 with my french eyes !
compare to 2003 what happened to st albans and dragon ?
if i 've well understood you are just playing 10 minutes half since this season did i undertood well your post ? if yes how long was the half time before .
thanks for you help guys and good luck for your championnship !!

Alan Vessey
09-01-2004, 12:26 AM
We used to play 8 minutes each way. The lower leagues play 6 minutes each way!!

With regard to St. Albans we are having a few problems. We have a few players out with injury and have lost one of our best players. The league table dosen't look good but hopefully we can stay in Div.1, we will be stronger in the 2nd half of the league (i hope)

nours
10-01-2004, 10:40 AM
thanks allan for your answer
in fact i've read the post on old div 1 post and i get the information in this post .
i think i have undertsood most of the messages
i was very surprise about the sadness there were in this post .
i was believing that canoe polo was more develloped in gb compare to france but i'am not sure it's true .
when i look gb i v've the feeling that it was french situation 5 years ago .
i think that our french div 1 is strong now and one reason was comming from the fact that some people from leader' s team move to other team .that make the level increase and also devellop the polo in this local country ( for example i was thinking to the courtin's brother ( 3 players with a high level ) who move from thury to agen where polo was not so developped when the first brother move to there .
at a lowest level i make a parrallel between english champion ship and our b team in my club : we were playing in div2 but have somme trouble to complete the team each years to a point that we have to move div 3 not because of our result but because of lack of people .
the team was dieing the solution came from the young people from our "paddle school " .
i am really convince that if you devellop polo with young people you will have a strong gb championship in few years

Ajdavis5
13-01-2004, 09:19 AM
you are having a laugh i am retired and lower leagues is where i choose to cruise short halves are better cant knock it


Love to everyone


COME ON ST'ALBANS !!!!!!!! :drunk:

nours
13-01-2004, 08:17 PM
i don't think so i think that's:
much longer it is much better it is ;)

wayne
14-01-2004, 06:44 PM
Nours, do you mean that strong players left a strong team, to play with a weaker team? cela serait très égalitariste, tres francais. En Angleterre c'est le contraire - les jouers fort departent les equipes failbe a noyer. Il y a moins et moins jouers fort, mais les jouers fort restent tres fort. Est-ce-qu'il y a difficile a voyager au les competitions nationale? La France est plus grand qu'angleterre!

Au revoir,

Paul

nours
14-01-2004, 08:11 PM
you french is quite good ?
the only think i don't understand is your question about travelling

i wont say that exactly yes he move from a top team to lower level team but not a poor level team .
the story is that the 1st brother who name manuel leave to agen to find a job
when he arrived they were building a team which seems to have a potential !
i think he help to accelerate the training and make the level teams growing faster.
2 years after the second brother do the same he complete the team so there, agen has really top team .

but don't worry france is not so good as you think cause we've got also people who leave a top team to go to a better teams

and if you look @ my self i am also in this kind of trip .
i explain: i pratice canoe for 20 years now (polo since 91 ) at the same club thury .
i move to le havre which 1h25 mn drive from my club 8 years ago .
there is one club (trouville)which is 30 minute drive and was playing in a lower division last year but i didn't switch to them so we can says that i am also a bad example .

but i am also a good example cause this year trouville win the ticket to play in div2 while my team was going in div 3 cause of lack of motivate people (very long story).
i was little disappointed and i was about to move to trouville but finally i sign @ thury so now we can say that i will saty in a lower level team instead of going with a higher level team .

i am not sur that my story was clear !!!!!!
as i say iwas very surprise about what happened in england iwas expcting that engl

nours
14-01-2004, 08:23 PM
in france to limit such movement, normally a club ,who recieve a new player from a top team, has to pay a "transfer" to the club he left.
the prize few years ago was 1000 pounds for a div 1 player 2000 pounds for national team player and 500 pounds for a div2 player.
to my knowledge this rule is not very often apply in polo .


as i said in my last post i wasn't expecting such problem in gb polo .
to me before i read below post gb was much better than france( structure & developpement) but it seems i was wrong !!!

see you

nours

Ajdavis5
18-01-2004, 05:39 PM
Nours i didn't realise you played for furry hampsters i changed to a lower league to help with sport development in this country and restart a team at a club that had lost there direction and just had placky mongers but the people that followed turned the team into a div 1 team in div four but things are happening at our club and we are bringing two youth teams and two senior teams so from nothing to something must be good


and paul your are english so no frog on the english page please



:D

nours
18-01-2004, 06:23 PM
sory but my english is not so good as yours and there are few words in yours last post where i expected some transtlation .
just to be sure is furry hampsters a team name ? :hump:
and what is plackly mongers .
see you and good luck for your new team !

Kajakske
19-01-2004, 01:46 PM
If this is of any concern or interest to any of you British or French players, the Belgian divion one this year will probably be weaker than ever also.
It already was last season, with a very good team dropping to last place since some people left (Job, other interests, no idea).
This year, within the same club, there first team also has some players leaving.

The level will probably increase once some new teams (or old teams who are coming back with fresh people) like Charleroi, or newly entered team will show themselves in first class.

There is nothing wrong with people leaving, that's there own choice, there is only a problem when no new people join (or are trained).
A team will always have new members joining, and old members leaving. That's normal.