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richk
11-12-2003, 08:07 AM
How many hours per week do you spend in training and team practises both on and off the water.
Write an explination of how much time you use in the gym, on the water, and doing other stuff.

richk
11-12-2003, 08:09 AM
Could someone out there whos cleverer than I am attach a poll to this thread?

michielv
11-12-2003, 11:53 AM
This is my current schedule but it is winter so I cut down on my running a bit and increase gym (I actually don't do any gym during the summer, yeah yeah, I know, I should, but hey, who needs a gym in Div 3 right?) :

gym : 4 times a week 30 minutes.
boat: once a week 2 hrs (outside) or 1 hr (pool)
running (outdoors): 3 times a week (35 minutes - 1,5 hours, depending on the distance (9 - 15+ km) and whether combined with gym or not).
couch potatoe: twice a week. Rest is required as well :D

TheMasterG
11-12-2003, 12:03 PM
Adding poll for rick.... :bgrinhat:

Henrik Holst
11-12-2003, 06:58 PM
In the wintertime I`m training as following ( this varies based on how much work I have):

- Paddling in pool: 1 x 1,5 hours
- Weights : 2 x 1,5 hours
- Indoor hoyckey: 1 x 2 hours
- Running : 1 x 1 hours ( often more times a week )
- Paddling machine : 1 x 1 hours

So a total of 8,5 hours ( some weeks more and some weeks less )

In the summertime it`s mainly padling and running.

Paula
12-12-2003, 11:39 AM
Hi!

I´m quite ill nom but in winter I usually training in water 3x2 hours/week and I do weight training and aerobics 3x1 hours/week.

:smilehat:

brianmc
12-12-2003, 04:08 PM
Does lifting a lightweight flight count as weights?
If so I do weight training twice a week, once to get the boat on to the roofrack and once to get it off.

As for paddling I train in paddling forwards, bacwards etc. for approx 3-4 hrs on various rivers on saturdays/sundays. I have found over the years it is much tougher training if you use a shorter boat on the rivers so as when I get into my polo boat I fly along(It also seems to be much more fun).

Ball work I try to avoid so I've limited myself to the 2 minutes before a game to ensure I'm hungry for it.

This rigorous training regime has kept me in good stead so far in Div 2 in Dublin.

sorry folks this was meant to be a reply to a the poll by richk.

richk
17-12-2003, 04:48 PM
Who are these legends who train for 20+ hours per week?

Could you please give us a breakdown of what you do, how much time on and off the water?

It seems like the majority of people spend about 50% of their training time on the water, would that be a fair assumtion?

Its good for me to see how much time people spend training so then I know how much work I have to do to try and get better than the rest of you!

:thumbup:

Rich

jorge
19-12-2003, 07:52 PM
Hi richk. I´m the Ciencias´s coach (Madrid), second place in the last nacional championship.

In this moment we train six times in the week, three times water and three times strength training (gym) (10-12h). During the year we will change the strength sessions in the gym by water training.

The strength training is very important in our sport but it isn´t necesary more than trhee or four sessions/week, and two sessions could be enough if you haven´t experience in strength training.

:cheers:

Craig
22-12-2003, 08:28 PM
I find when it comes to winter training you've just got to brave the cold weather and get out in your boat as much as possible. :( :bang:

subzero
23-12-2003, 06:19 PM
Okay this is the second time i've tired to write this so bear with me.

In winter,

Two hours in gym *(when i can be bothered to go)*
Two hours on the water (an hour teaching)
plus all water time in comertions which are every month (on average) and they last four or five hours.

In Summer,

Two hours in the gym (when i can be bother to go)
An hour of non stop areobics
Minimum of Two hours, Maximum of Six hours on the water depending on what i'm doing that week and how early it gets dark (e.g. end of summer) on a wednesday
another two hours of teaching

These can depend week to week on what i'm doing.

You asked what saints can train for 20+ hours well, i've got a friend in the GB gymnastics squad and they train five times a week for four hours (20 hours) and then hass all the compertions and shows they do which can be six hours long. Also they have to be on a special low fat diet. Now that's deadication.

Hope you followed that.

Luv Ya

Subbie

UNO Q SABE
08-01-2004, 05:00 PM
:barbell:

Hi! I´m Pool, I´m member (sub-21 member) club Kayak - Polo Malaga (Spain)

Normally, we are training 3 hours on friday, saturday adn sunday , this is in winter.

In the week, we are training 2 hours of gym on tuesday e thurday and we are doing "water" 3 hours on monday and wednesday.

On summer, we are training all the days in the water, we begin at 6 and we finish at 10!!!!

Personally, i´m training on week-end, with my partners (3 hours on friday, on saturday and on sunday...), and, during the week i´m doing gym, i can´t make "water"....

I´M A STUDENT!!!!!!

:stupid:

steffers
12-01-2004, 02:27 AM
when you're on the water that much and if you are not playing games, then what kind of training do you do? we (my teammates and i) tend to get bored with all our drills after about an hour or so and besides paddling back and forth and doing pivot turns and ball rolling and such, im really at a loss for some new drills or especially individual skills to practice. so how do all of you keep so occupied? please help me out. thanks.

-Steph

chiang
12-01-2004, 06:13 AM
so one thing that i do (or probably better to do when i lived out in cambridge, ma) when i go paddling by myself is racing the crew folk. they are super fast and gives you a focal point with which you can concentrate and work. i don't know where the crew folk are here in california, but i occasionally race some random folk who scull. just be ready to get toasted more often than not.

when you get really fast, you can race the crew folk while dribbling...i am not that fast so i have never done this...but i suspect that the people rowing will be super amazed by a kayaker dribbling a polo ball and keeping up with them.

tc

AsgerS
12-01-2004, 06:46 PM
Who are these legends who train for 20+ hours per week?

There is a reason why Deventer have the best team. A few of us from Skovshoved trained with them for a week. They have between 7 and 9 sessions a week. In addition they meet 2-3 times a week for eating, drinking or girlscouting..... Some sessions include both weights and paddling.

atbarber
13-01-2004, 05:01 PM
I train 2 hours per week with different groups, and coach two teams one hour per week.

I also take a 4 hour river trip every other week with about 30 people.

I also go to the gym three days a week for abs, kaibo, and general body bump classes.

Adrian

Erik
17-03-2004, 09:30 AM
as a 'eerste klasse' player (div 2?)
I now have 4 training sessions a week. But that's not normal for me:)

1 x handball and on same evening rodeo
2 x polo à
1 x a sport (kind of sport depending on mood)

I hope i can hold this intensive trainingprogram. But time is the main problem.
Motivation enough if i could i would train 7 times week.

bye, Erik

Mal
17-03-2004, 06:56 PM
In a 'normal' week (whatever that may be), generally I go to the Gym 3 times a week for about an hour a time, alternating between weights and running/cardio. Polo I get an hour and a half every week as long as not too many people turn up at the pool.

I wouldn't mind doing polo at the weekend outside in the summer but it's pretty difficult to find the people, the venue, the kit etc. Plus, my girlfriend would probably get annoyed if I spent all my time playing polo!

Mal

ErikV
17-03-2004, 07:34 PM
difficult to find people in london? I tought there were many polo clubs in london.

michielv
18-03-2004, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by Erik
I hope i can hold this intensive trainingprogram. But time is the main problem.
Motivation enough if i could i would train 7 times week.

bye, Erik

Don't. Even the top players from DKV need to rest. It is a lot better for your body (and health) to let it recuperate (sp?) to compensate for hard work. Don't forget, you already have 5 trainingsessions a week...

BTW, I've learned a lot from my marathon (running) training this winter. Even though it is a different type of sports the build up of the training is interesting. Have a look at the schedules to see what I mean: http://www.runnersweb.nl/runnersweb/show/id=2752

Lots of relatively short distances but you end up doing the marathon (well, that is the plan anyway).

ErikV
19-03-2004, 10:02 AM
Michiel, i think i have a good look on my recuparation (sp?).
Now i train 4 (as listed) times a week. Altough i can not hold that (cause of time).
When I train 4 times a week my body can recuparate well.

And my polo skills are increasing definitely:).

(hope we can beat some at the Helmvaarders tournament:))

Bye, Erik

Tommy
24-03-2004, 10:16 AM
I paddle a lot, but not that much polo playing beacuse theres no team here.
But i paddle slalom about 12 hours a week(will rise in number now when its getting warmer, no fun paddeling in -5 degreses :thumbdown ) and 2 hours gym and 2 hours of running. and some ball sports just for fun.

And then also some shoots and passes with the polo ball a few hours a week.

Tommy
24-03-2004, 10:54 AM
Things to do on the water when you cant play with the team:

Strength in canoe: I start with doing ten 10seconds sprints and 50 seconds of rest between. After that I paddle for 30 seconds when I put maximum power to every stroke and have a pretty long micro-break between the strokes. Then i rest 30 secs and continue doing that for 5 minutes then some longer rest a 3minutes. Then i repeat this "powerstroke" thing 5 times. And in the end I do 10 more 10second sprints. After that I normally just play the river a while and then go up to the showers.
This proccedure will help you getting out the strength you´ve built up in the gym to your paddeling.

3-8-3 strokes: You start with the 3 really soft strokes. and then 8 at maximum power with no micro-break, then 3 more soft then 7 maximum 3 soft 6maximum. You do this til you reach 3soft and 3 maximum and then you start going up again to 8 and then down again. I do this for 5 minutes and then a 3 minute break and then repeat this proceedure for 6 more sets.

Distance paddeling: I go out on a tour of 5km when you just paddle forward(excellent time to think about your forward paddeling thequnice<--misspelled) This I do with a pretty high speed you should keep as high speed as possible so that youre really tired after this tour. For me it takes about 35minutes but then its in a slalom boat.

Lactate training: This is really good for slalom but also good for polo players. You do sprintes when you paddle at your absolut maximum for about a minute. dont hold back anything then it will get poorer effect. After this you can take a pretty long break for about 10 minutes and then do another one of these sprintes. I repeat this about 8 times. Youd dont get that much effetiva paddel time but its really good.

Ian Main
03-06-2004, 10:51 AM
In the wintertime I`m training as following ( this varies based on how much work I have):

- Paddling in pool: 1 x 1,5 hours
- Weights : 2 x 1,5 hours
- Indoor hoyckey: 1 x 2 hours
- Running : 1 x 1 hours ( often more times a week )
- Paddling machine : 1 x 1 hours

So a total of 8,5 hours ( some weeks more and some weeks less )

In the summertime it`s mainly padling and running.
Henrik,

Out of interest - what is a 'Paddling machine'? Are they expensive, and where can you source one? Assuming it is an indoor piece of kit it would be handy for the Scottish Winters!!

Henrik Holst
03-06-2004, 11:02 AM
Hi,

The machine is either self made ( very hard to make a good machine, you need to be a professor of some sort.... ), or you buy a professionally built machine, but I think they are expensive. I have the lucky oportunity to use a few based on the fact that I am a member of a big en professional flatwater club.

The following link is to the best producer at least what I think: http://www.dansprint.com/

It gives a very smooth feeling, and the force is consistent all the way in the stroke. It is also not reliable of a motot, since it uses air as a breaking mechanism. ( This can be tunes on a scale from 1 - 10 ). It has also a very good computer with a screen in front of your legs, where you can monitor averything from speed, top speed, average speed, distance speed, if you have a equal hard stroke on both sides++++

I don`t know the price, but ask them directly.