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Raymond Liow
29-11-2003, 05:26 PM
Seeing it's nearing the end of Nov, I figure most of you might have read this already.

But for the benefit of those who have not had the chance to do so (aka people like me), pls check out Clyde's home page
http://www.clydespolopage.com/

There's a good write-up on illegal screen/obstruction as well as an interesting situation question on keeper's charge.

Raymond Liow
29-11-2003, 05:33 PM
Q. An attacker with the ball paddles into the zone and is legally kayak tackled by a defender which then turns the attacker and causes them to knock into the goal keeper's boat. There was time, space and opportunity for the attacker to avoid the collision.

Should the referee call a foul in favour of the goal keeper or is this allowed to happen as the attacker had the ball in his hand?

Ray's answer:
Granted that the attacker had time, space and opportunity to avoid the collision, my opinion is that the attacker should be penalised for an illegal tackle on the GK. It doesn't really matter if the attacker had the ball in his hand or not. Bottomline is the GK had an unfair tackle performed on him.

A referee's call is very subjective. Wonder what you guys think of it? How would you have judged this situation.

Worth discussing is the following situation:
An attacker charges into the GK's zone to shoot. He shoots at goal. While the ball was travelling in the air, the attacker knocks into the GK. Is this considered a keeper's charge?

Again, what do you guys make of this?

ANYH
29-11-2003, 06:34 PM
If the goalkeeper is not in possession of the ball and is moved or unbalanced by contact from an opposing player, then that player has committed an illegal tackle.

based on the above Rule, i will call for Keeper's Charge.
the attacker should make an attempt to avoid the GK at all cost no matter wat happens.

wat u guys think?

:drunk:

degoon
30-11-2003, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Raymond Liow


Worth discussing is the following situation:
An attacker charges into the GK's zone to shoot. He shoots at goal. While the ball was travelling in the air, the attacker knocks into the GK. Is this considered a keeper's charge?

Again, what do you guys make of this?

For the attacker to knock into the GK while the ball was travelling towards the goal, the ball must be travelling REALLY slowly... :matrix:

Personally I think that so long as the attacker was making an effort to avoid the GK (such as trying to swerve to avoid collision), it shld not be a keeper charge. If it was intentional :ninja: , then yes i would call for the keeper charge.

Anyway in cases when I have seen this happen, the GK shld be able to save the shot quite easily since the ball is travelling quite slowly.

M@D
30-11-2003, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by Raymond Liow
Q. An attacker with the ball paddles into the zone and is legally kayak tackled by a defender which then turns the attacker and causes them to knock into the goal keeper's boat. There was time, space and opportunity for the attacker to avoid the collision.

Should the referee call a foul in favour of the goal keeper or is this allowed to happen as the attacker had the ball in his hand?


I think it depends on whether the attacker is shooting at that time. if the attacker shoots while being tackled or just after being tackled, then try to avoid knocking into the Gk, there should be no foul. But, I think the key point is whether he/she tried to avoid the keeper.



Originally posted by Raymond Liow
Worth discussing is the following situation:
An attacker charges into the GK's zone to shoot. He shoots at goal. While the ball was travelling in the air, the attacker knocks into the GK. Is this considered a keeper's charge?

Again, what do you guys make of this?

should be foul if no defender cause the attacker to move towards the keeper.

Ken Chew
30-11-2003, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by degoon
For the attacker to knock into the GK while the ball was travelling towards the goal, the ball must be travelling REALLY slowly...

This is a simple case if the ball is travelling really slow.

The difficult case is the split second case where the player shoots very near GK, balls go in, keeper got hit almost at the same time.

If the ball had gone in before player hits the GK, then obviously no foul.

Most of the time I see, referee will not call a foul if the ball had gone it.