New polo players

[Backup]

hey there sports fans.~!~!!~~~!!!
a big hello to all n warm welcomes to those who seek it...im from np canoe polo..though im year 2 im a newbie in polo side cos im a sprinter..n nv played any ball games b4 entering poly...so was wondering if anyone out there has the same situtation as urs truly.. most certainly there r...so i'd like it if we all grew together in this sport...i could give my views on sprinting too...im not too good when its short dist...but i've got 1 hell of a story whe n it comes to marathons..haha..i digress...ok..bck to topic...
anyone who has some say in this or wish to comment..or help out us poor souls...can post anything u like...callin all freshies too....

[ad3285]

Get familiar with balls (using ur hands of course) ;)

Sports like:
- Basketball
- Netball
- Waterpolo
- Canoepolo (-.-")

well just play more :P

[fuzionist]

Hey ..so which kayaking team ya from?

same here too..im in sprint. ^5!

btw..i find long distances are more exciting than short sprints..hehe~
esp the 22K one

[cartoon]

I think getting a good ball sense is crucial, i think it would help if one gets his/her own ball and fiddle with till the "feel" is there hehe... and eh besides that i think getting a good game sense is crucial too, almost equally important or more important than personal skills,game sense should improve by playing more ball games or just playing more games during training. Another point is the "feel" with your team members, playing with a certain group of people for a prolonged period will help you know their playing styles and methods better and thus communicate better with them in the game. :headbang: Hope my :twocents: worth helped those who wish to improve. :cheers:

[Backup]

hey fuzionist...me from np...i not so good at polo...not sure if i count as good at sprintin either...haha...nv won a single medal.. but ya..i prefer marathons too....easier to accomplish...not so much pressure..hahaha
wonder how many ppl out there tink the same way...new polo players ...pls feel free to post anything

[fuzionist]

uh..hey backup..whats ure name?
maybe i know you..

or usually u use what race craft?

[cartoon]

Haha backup is eugene and fuzionist is leonard... u guys KNOW each other la!!! :withstp: hehe!

[fuzionist]

Wahaha...
what a conincidence..
chey..i tot who sia!!!

hi eugene!

[chickenontherun]

i began cp only recently also......

started out for the exposure, but got hooked onto cp soon after a while! super fun! hope to continue playing cp as much as i can!

[cartoon]

great to have someone join our community :) :thumbup: so where r u from chicken on the run?

[chickenontherun]

i am from hcjc oac, not totally focusing on canoe polo though..... =) really want to see cp spread to more schools, but now only got us, rjc and vjc who had exposure to this exciting new sport!

[fiReL]

hi..same sch as chickenontherun..ya..we r hooked on cp..but we not able to continue training becoz of our cca activities..quite sad..onli can play once in a while..we haf to go paddle culture to play though..becoz we no $, n equipment..unlike poly..haf swimming pool n ur own kayaks..hc veri poor wan.. :waah: it is an open fact..

[cartoon]

HC poor?! haha joke of the year... JC's are not exposed to canoe polo just as yet, so school pumps the money into the kayak sprinting. The amount of money spent there is no joke. Well it depends on you guys to bring this sport to your school... Work hard, Train hard! :matrix:

[chickenontherun]

it is hard for us to try to spread it just by ourselves. too little is known by all the schools, so it will be hard to schools to explore into this new area

[fiReL]

Originally posted by cartoon
HC poor?! haha joke of the year... JC's are not exposed to canoe polo just as yet, so school pumps the money into the kayak sprinting. The amount of money spent there is no joke. Well it depends on you guys to bring this sport to your school... Work hard, Train hard! :matrix:

hc is realli poor..we dun haf swimming pool..Chinese high has..maybe i shld say hc is stingy..for tiz cp champs..we paid everything by ourselves..e regisration fees n e coach..becoz our teacher dun wan coach so we secretly haf..so we had to pay ourselves..our teacher say he dun wan us to be exploited..
but for our outdoor activities we can dun expect e sch to give or sponsor us $..e sch almost disband our sch rugby becoz it is not wining n it spends alot of $ on e coaches..hc is like dat wan..i tink cp will not be sponsored in my sch unless it has alot of "potential" in wining trophies..stupid lah.. :silly:

[chickenontherun]

yar, schools are very practical one, you dun bring back the silverware, you are one step closer to disbanding. so canoe polo, being a new sport around, will be deemed as having little potential, thus most likely is little support from the school.

[Backup]

hmm....
i see ur plight...n i do understand how u feel...
i too m in ur shoes,boat,dilemma etc etc...but we cant take it lyin down...i didnt...n wat i did though stupid to most...is to purchase ur own equipment...my sch mates dun tink it too crazy..if u have a flair for it..own something..it'll keep the spirit alive...n i promise u.. u wont be able to harvest ur profits when it starts pourin in...metaphorically speakin of cos(implications towards recruitment)
so....as a sign of booster..or bolster....try to attain something affordable..within ur means...own it...n when u have the time...use it...like a paddle...then head down to scf to play..or PC...or where ever...can always call the polys to organise frenlies.. keep this channel open cos we got more to hear from all u sports fans~!
see ya~!

[chickenontherun]

haix, everything just boils down to $$ again....

[cartoon]

This is life!!! haha!! Especially in Singapore, everthing is about money loh, you have the money you get the top boats, u perform way better than your opponents, you have the money you can play for Singapore in overseas competition, very practical. Well HCJC and TCHS have no lack in funds, it depends on whether they are willing to set aside to set up a cca. This is depend on how you market canoe polo to them. If they deem it as an up and coming sport worthy of their funds, they will invest. It's all about the "face" try using that to market it. All the best in your endeavours! :headbang:

[chickenontherun]

yeap yeap, it is always about the "face" factor. haha. hope that they can have the foresight to see the potential in canoe polo. and corrections, it is TCHS that has the $$, not HCJC. :bang:

[Tigr@ine]

hmmmmx....talking about how to market canoe polo...i think most schs dun even noe this sport exists n i think most schs will onli like have this cca if other schs have it... sigh it's a vicious cycle i think...but also of cos the $$ is very impt.... tchs sure have no lack of $$ wan lar...tt i am sure of...hehe just my :twocents:
oh yeah n i'm a newbie from HCJC too...feeling really poor nowadayx... oh yeah, we went to nus to play friendly last sun... :barbell:

[fuzionist]

Yeah..guess maybe the sport is not that well-known, hence lack of public awareness..
Btw..Schools with Racing Fleets should have the means to if they wish to support CP.. cos Racing Fleets cost a lot more to maintain and more $ compare to CP

[Tigr@ine]

hehe...wat are racing fleets? :stupid: i suppose the problem is how to promote the sport ... n such tt schs will be able to start it, maintain it and continue it... perhaps more than the national champs every year?

[chickenontherun]

racing fleet are those that the canoeing team use one i think. but i think the awareness factor is sth that SCF really have to look into. cos like 99% of the people dun know a single thing about canoe polo lor

[Tigr@ine]

hmmm...just realized tt like i have no idea who is like in charge of scf? or e ppl in it? hmmmmx...anyone help me there?

[chickenontherun]

yar lor, we dun even know who are the decision makers......but in my opinion, they are the ones who hold the key to the future of cp in singapore

[fiReL]

tink advertisement by the sports council more important..of coz e scf pple oso impt..but depends on whether they want to do sth..if they realli wan to promote cp it would haf been done n cp will be a success in jc now..instead of e present si :bang: tuation where hardly any jc noe abt cp..quite sad though..

[chickenontherun]

ssc, scf, they all play a part. but i guess it will not be so popular with primary schs, cos like they are very young and their parents will most likely deem it as unsafe for their child, dissuading them in sec sch from joining. so there is still obstacles to work out.

[M@D]

Originally posted by Tigr@ine
hmmm...just realized tt like i have no idea who is like in charge of scf? or e ppl in it? hmmmmx...anyone help me there?

If you want to know about the ppl in scf, goto: www.scf.org.sg
but I think the site is not updated regularly.


Originally posted by chickenontherun
yar lor, we dun even know who are the decision makers......but in my opinion, they are the ones who hold the key to the future of cp in singapore

Sorri about this chickenontherun, but I dun think you know about how SSC manages the NSAs in s'pore.

Basically, SSC is made up of full-time staffs i.e. administrators, doctors, etc, while NSAs (National Sports Associations i.e. SCF, Sailing Association, etc.) are managed by "volunters", people who do not get paid, but who are doing whatever they can for the sport while having to earn a living at the same time.

I having been canoeing (or to use the updated term kayaking) since '93 and to be honest, not much has changed, but this is not a lack of effort from SCF, but rather a lack of effort from the rowers and players. While everyone is waiting for some other ppl to make something happen, canoeing simpily stays at the same level.

You want to know who makes the decisions for canoe polo? If you look at the structure of SCF, there is supposed to be a canoe
polo sub-com, but since last year, no one is willing to head the sub-committee or/and to help out in any of the development programs or planning for events.

If anyone expect the president, vice-president, secretary + dy, treasurer + dy, and sylvester to be able to manage canoe polo, recreation kayaking, sprint kayaking and the development of canoeing all by themselves, then I would say that :withstp:

No offence there, I tend to piss ppl off with my comments,
but here's something worse:

Why waste timing complaining about how things are if everyone just wants to play and refuse to get off their butts to change things?

You want something to happen, make it happen yourself. Ask yourselves this: What have I done for Canoe Polo?

[chickenontherun]

no sweat man, i know you mean no offense. point taken.

so do you mean that now currently there is no body in charge of canoe polo? then who organise the cp competitions? this is interesting.

btw, you are swistat right? :cheers:

[cartoon]

We are inexperienced and do not know the system, not everything is transparent. :stupid: The forum is for discussion isn't it? :welcome: We do not not know how to go about promoting cp which is why we are here to discuss, we need experienced people like mad to enlighten us. :worship: Chill man mad. :cheers:

[Backup]

ok......this is goin into a real firefire due to the fact tt not everyone knows how each other operates...i'l disclose as much as i noe...swistat...this is ur junior speakin..haha...bernard's fren.

ok..here i go....
from wat i noe...the Poly's organised the event....as per scf's request...but we organised it...that's one thing out of the way....
then the thing about SCF not doin anything...i tink its a big misunderstandin...they r...its just..how do u expect a country wif no lake to canoe in n no way to promote it on live tele to pick up a sport it hardly sees???.....correct me if im wrong..but we need to publicise this as much as they need to fund us...but...on out part..we can always share the burden wif them...its out sport too..
i got a few options...whether u wanna take them is up to u..but its goin to require alot of strings....as per all my activities...
1.call mediacorp urself...get a few frens who noe those ppl...ask them to visit...see it...interview it....share it wif the world...music communicates all walks of life...as well as its medium..the radio...
2.tell all ur frens to bring their frens to bring their frens to some poly's to see their trainin......
3.get some movies of tapes on it...play it in sch.....u've got to try..dun bang ur head against a wall n say u've given up b4 tryin

im ready to offer a hand...to offer assistance..in any way..but u have to take a proactive stand at it too....try..u nv noe wat u'll get...n once u've gotten things rolling..it will be quite hard to stop a boulder from rolling downhill....a bottomlss hill(optimistic)

hence....let us all take lead...do out part...in time...we will bring this sport to its peak in this country...
heads up guys....n keep it cool~

[Tigr@ine]

yeah =) some really great ideas there man :thumbup: just wondering the videos which the polys took of the national champs right... is it converted to vcd or something alreadi? cos like in tt way then maybe we (hcjc) can get from e polys n like screen it or sth... ALOT of my classmates and schmates just simply refuse to believe how 10 much less 16 kayaks can fit into a swimming pool...lol :D tt video would be very useful in showing them...hahaha ... lol

[Backup]

erm.....not to sure who has the bloody vcd though...hahaa....
good that u brought it up..haha....been tryin to find the guy...
or u can watch other competitions like the international or the asian champs....they r all very good to watch
i m not sure where to get them...but i tink u can ask arnd ....shld be availible outside...or dl....hahhaaha

[chickenontherun]

besides the videos right, is there any local websites that is about Singapore Canoe Polo? so that we can refer them to to find out more. because all my friends gave me the "are you serious" look when i tell them abt cp.

some of the common questions asked is how do you blend polo into kayaking. a common website with pictures/videos would be helpful in helping people to know more.

[M@D]

From what I know, TP, NP and NUS took videos of specific games during the Nat. Champs. If interested, maybe can get from them.

I think there is a question from ChickenOnTheRun earlier about who is doing the organising of the canoe polo champs.

What usually happens is SCF will try to get someone to volunteer, but usually it won't happen as on one wants to do it. A couple of months before the competition proper, someone will get arrowed. The same thing happened this year and it was the case where the champs almost didn't take place as there was no one to arrow, or rather the person got the arrow rather late and he use tai-chi to transfer the arrow to me while i was minding my own business, hence i was rather bo-chap during the organising.

Looking at the increasing number of teams, unless the organising starts early next year, the same issue about the number of games played, competition system used, number of categories, referee accreditation and many other problems will occured again.

btw if you want to know the results for the oceania, click HERE (http://www.canoe.org.au/story.asp?Item=1217)

[chickenontherun]

does anybody know of any local site that keeps track of local cp development?

[cartoon]

What do u mean by local development of cp? is there anyway of being more specific? i dunno about others but when i see "local development of cp in signapore" i get a very vague idea of what the author of that message is trying to say, does he mean the results of the competition or does he mean something else. just my :twocents: worth. :stupid:

[chickenontherun]

just referring to a site where ppl can go check out on anything about cp in singapore

[Naseer]

Hi there from SP here also just started playing cp few months ago, well to just ans chicken qn i dont think there is any site here in Singapore that says much bout cp even paddle culture puts in a very vague description of cp too... :bang:

Even scf website doesnt say much...the only way anyone gonna noe about cp is they either try it themselves or they seen the game somewhere loh..