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Samba
26-02-2002, 12:26 PM
Just wondering...
What if I park my kayak in between those big ugly foreign defencemen and after that someone tosses me the ball and then
I, ofcourse, try to shoot it in the goal, but somehow someone of those BUFD:s get their paddle at front of the ball!
Now the thing that wonders me is, that is it a fault if the defenceman blocks the ball with his/her paddle, when the paddle is less than 1 meter away from my hand and he/she doesn't move his/her paddle? What if he/she does move his/her paddle?
If there's a fault in that situation, what would the right sanction be?
-Samba
conor
26-02-2002, 03:04 PM
If the defender has his/her paddles in a blocking position prior to the shot being taken and blocks the ball without moving the paddles, I would not blow for a foul. But if the defender moves his/her paddle towards the ball in a blocking action while the shot being taken, then should a GPS be awarded for a foul while shooting and also within the 6m area???
Conor
Raymond Liow
26-02-2002, 03:08 PM
Hi Samba,
A player is fouled ONLY when his paddle is within your arms' reach. If it is 1m away from the reach of your arm, then it's perfectly legal.
Perhaps you're confusing this with the rule that a player must be allowed to throw a ball 1m measured horizontally. If a defender's paddle stops the ball from travelling 1m, it's a foul, usually a re-take of the throw. But if his paddle is within 1m of the arm of the player taking the throw yet does not stop the ball, there is no foul.
It's OK :thumbup: for a player to move his paddle about when he is trying to block a pass or a shot. However, it is NOT OK :thumbdown: for a player to move his paddle TOWARDS you. That will be a foul and depending on the severity of the situation, he can get anything from a green card to a GPS to a red card.
Samba
26-02-2002, 03:15 PM
Allright!
Thank you for answering to my question, but
I didn't confuse it with the 1 meter starting rule...
What I really ment was that, in a situation like that everybody are really close to eachother and those paddles, I think, are allways too close to me! Is it a fault if the defender moves his paddle
sideways, not towards me, but it's still closer than 1 meter?;)
-Samba
Raymond Liow
26-02-2002, 03:22 PM
Hi Conor,
First, let me assume your idea of moving a paddle towards a ball also means moving the paddle towards the player. Pls note there is a very distinct difference here.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with moving the paddle towards the ball in an attempt to block it provided
1. the paddle is not moving towards the player.
2. the paddle is not within arms' reach of the player.
A GPS is quite a serious sanction to be awarded. It should only be awarded for fouls which are
1. deliberate
AND/OR
2. dangerous
For a deliberate and/or dangerous foul that occurs outside the 6m zone, a GPS will only be awarded in the case of an unguarded goal. If it is within the 6m zone, then a deliberate and/or dangerous foul will justify a GPS even if the goal is heavily guarded.
Now I have a question. If a player moves his paddle legally, ie out of arms reach etc, in an attempt to block a shot/pass and injures another opponent (not the shooter/passer). The deliberate factor is definitely missing here but the dangerous factor is there.
Would you award a yellow card for the danger or just a green card as it is not on purpose? Assuming a GPS is out of the question.
My idea is deliberate or not, a foul is a foul. The pain on the opponent who is injured does not diminish a single bit just because the foul was not committed on purpose. To warn the player to watch out for the safety of others besides the one he is marking, I would award a yellow card.
What do the rest think?
Raymond Liow
26-02-2002, 03:26 PM
Woah! As I am typing a reply to Samba, a post pops out from Conor. And as I ponder over Conor's query, Samba replies! The power of communication and breaking down of barriers over the internet! :)
Samba, no worries for my reply.
Just have to remember for illegal use of paddle to be awarded, the paddle has to be within arms reach. 1m is a valid distance for a defender to wield his paddle against you, granted it is not towards you.
Hope this helps! :)
conor
26-02-2002, 04:45 PM
If a player moves their paddle and hits another player (not the passer/shooter), it is still an illegal use of the paddle and should incur a sanction
Samba
27-02-2002, 11:16 AM
Thank you for answering!
This has helped me a lot!
-Samba
:thumbup:
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