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haloz
10-03-2003, 12:59 PM
Hi to everyone!!! As everyone know there is limited competitive competitions here in Singapore. Wonder if anyone here agree that, we as playing members of the canoe polo community here in Singapore, should all team up and organise some sort of SUNDAY league here? Maybe all of us can start giving our 2cents worth of comment here and start this thread rolling!!! Hope to see some constructive comments and who knows this might be the start of the SUNDAY league!!! :headbang:

wizkid
01-04-2003, 02:50 PM
Nice great idea to have a sunday league but the main problem comes in when u dun have a pool to play at all and transporting the equipments will be expensive to have it done even every once a month !!!!..... But then, passion is above it all. It just overwrite everything...


Wizkid

Nerbbs
06-04-2003, 05:22 PM
sunday league sounds like a lotta fun...but it aint easy. Money aside...commitment? All it takes is one person to fizzle out and the rest will roll along..If it does happen think it will have to function like a commitee...y'noe...and i can say its not gonna be a smooth ride. It takes so much to make a one off league happen, not to mention a weekly affair.

but it will be kinda cool lar... peops gathering to play canoe polo. But as per normal, as with anything to do with canoe polo in singapore...everyone in the Sunday Super League (hahah not too bad a name ay?)must be prepared to do more than just be a player, we have to be promoters of our spor, takecharge of equipment, try and raise money....blah blah blah....

not easy...can make you wanna :bang: it takes more than "i wanna play"..... :)

laters.....

Unregistered
07-04-2003, 03:53 AM
Sounds like a great idea..
hmm..but $ wise and having a pool is a bit problem though
hehee..

can play at kallang?

fuzionist
07-04-2003, 03:55 AM
Its quite a good Idea...btw..$ and commitment is a problem though..

btw..can play at Kallang? no need pool there..got a basin
hehe..

wizkid
07-04-2003, 02:36 PM
Yeah kallang ... great idea hor ...

So are u gonna change the game to canoe polo touch down ??


Sm@rt@$$

fuzionist
08-04-2003, 02:07 AM
Well..no...
juz a suggestion only..but..i got zee people playing polo there last time.
Hee..
:P

D@r3d3ViL_G@V
09-04-2003, 01:58 AM
:gun: Sounds like a good idea playing at Kallang... but wat if we play in the sense of "friendly" match way by visiting the schools for a friendly match? (for e.g.TP visit NUS,SP vist NP in week1, then NUS visit SP,NP visit TP in week two or NUSAlumni vs SP Alumni...etc) like tat we can sort of keep track of other teams' progress playing them constantly thus spurring the weaker teams to improve while playing the stronger teams...isn't it boring to see NUS or SP being the top in IVP and Open's Competition??? Just a suggestion....Just to see wat u guys think bout this...
:wavey:

fuzionist
09-04-2003, 11:12 AM
Hmm..it`nst that something like the League that they had a few years ago..
Its a gd idea though=)
by the way..uhm..anyone here gt go sprinting also>?

Unregistered
11-04-2003, 08:18 AM
kallang can play wat...ask SP guys to do up the SRRR goal post?

Then we will will have car stopping by the flyover to see us play...hahah

sm82
11-04-2003, 03:14 PM
WOW...great idea man!!! actually the SRRR goal post quite not bad leh...can use for playin game!!!

the more teams the better...then everybody can oso improve together!!!! can experience different kind of playinn styles!!!

hehe i vote for the league!!!!!

:barbell:

fuzionist
12-04-2003, 03:24 AM
Hehe..yeahz..tis a gd idea..
:_)
problem is organising it..thats e hard part
how on earth to set up e goal post at kallang?...sounds impossible lor..

D@r3d3ViL_G@V
13-04-2003, 08:48 AM
hi there,
well, the goal post used for SRRR 2003 is made up from recycled stuffs... for example bamboo poles, used nets, styroform etc...thus making it affordable... further more to set it up just need maybe 30min to an hour further more it's light and can be carry around... maybe some modifications can be done to make it even better...
Well i support the league too... :guns:

Winkie
14-04-2003, 01:34 PM
i believe wat we need at kallang is something like the SP Goalpost , but one tt is more sturdy as the SP goalpost was made to last a day n not tried out for a longer period, perharps somebody could work on the model SP has.....

as for the league ... i think in 2-3 yrs it will be more ideal... a sunday league would be best for students who have graduated... n have a team of their own i guess... cos students in various institutes will have their own training... n the league may disrupt it....

JUST my 2cents worth nway.... heh :headbang:

hope i didn;t pissed anyone off....

h2o
15-04-2003, 03:33 AM
totally agree wit winkie.the national team jux started its 1st trainin and everythink is beginning to take shape. its better if we don't rush cos the league needs alot of planning and $$$.wat i suggest is every team will play against each other once a month.For example...(MAY- sp will play against np,host-sp and at the same time other games is going on...like round robin with home and away.)hope its clear.this way the canoepolo circle will reach for more ppl.i believe its low costing and all i need is a pool slot once a month.
In short,its like having a friendly ONCE A MONTH.whereas the goalposts at srrr2003 was made from cheap materials(ok...maybe sum)and its easy to set up. :scratch: haha maybe not that easy BUT ITS LIGHT.so its worth the try if ani1 tinking of doing it.

h2o
15-04-2003, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by D@r3d3ViL_G@V
:gun: Sounds like a good idea playing at Kallang... but wat if we play in the sense of "friendly" match way by visiting the schools for a friendly match? (for e.g.TP visit NUS,SP vist NP in week1, then NUS visit SP,NP visit TP in week two or NUSAlumni vs SP Alumni...etc) like tat we can sort of keep track of other teams' progress playing them constantly thus spurring the weaker teams to improve while playing the stronger teams...isn't it boring to see NUS or SP being the top in IVP and Open's Competition??? Just a suggestion....Just to see wat u guys think bout this...
:wavey:

hmmm...i tink its not fair for u to say that.TEAM ARE IMPROVING EVERYWHERE.if u are a keen follower of canoepolo in singapore,u will notice that during the last national,red tide almost cost an upset.and at the prev national, ngee ann got 2nd for ivp.(sorry if i got it wrong) recently during srrr2003,the guys from tp show that they are able to play as well.and those were the juniors. :thumbup: bravo.so i believe for sumtink to grow,u haf to be patient.and truthfully speaking every1 train hard for each com.canoepolo is slowly but surely spreadin out and players are not selfish not to share their knowledge so y worry?
hope i din piss ani1 off... :cheers:
jux passing by.......... :sleep:

D@r3d3ViL_G@V
16-04-2003, 03:15 AM
Originally posted by D@r3d3ViL_G@V
:gun: Sounds like a good idea playing at Kallang... but wat if we play in the sense of "friendly" match way by visiting the schools for a friendly match? (for e.g.TP visit NUS,SP vist NP in week1, then NUS visit SP,NP visit TP in week two or NUSAlumni vs SP Alumni...etc) like tat we can sort of keep track of other teams' progress playing them constantly thus spurring the weaker teams to improve while playing the stronger teams... :wavey:

:barbell: Just like wat i said b4... maybe the team captains of all various institutes can get togther to draw a plan regarding frinedly matches... and to guage and judge where to improve on and improvise in play tactics or game plan...in this way we will all bring canoe polo to a higher level.... :gun:
really hope to see this sport be in the olympics or sea games one day... :karate:

D@r3d3ViL_G@V
16-04-2003, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by h2o
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hmmm...i tink its not fair for u to say that.TEAM ARE IMPROVING EVERYWHERE.if u are a keen follower of canoepolo in singapore,u will notice that during the last national,red tide almost cost an upset.and at the prev national, ngee ann got 2nd for ivp.(sorry if i got it wrong) recently during srrr2003,the guys from tp show that they are able to play as well.and those were the juniors. :thumbup: bravo.so i believe for sumtink to grow,u haf to be patient.and truthfully speaking every1 train hard for each com.canoepolo is slowly but surely spreadin out and players are not selfish not to share their knowledge so y worry?
hope i din piss ani1 off... :cheers:
jux passing by.......... :sleep:

:confused: Yo brother relax... :kiss:
I'm just taking tat for an example, wat i really haf in heart is more friendly match to be held... :ninja:
one thing is we won't under estimate our opponents, second thing is also to expose ourselves to different playing styles as i notice different institutes play differently...
doesn't matter who wins the comp, as long as we tried our best and learn something in the end of the day....

:headbang:
D@r3d3ViL_G@V

fuzionist
16-04-2003, 04:16 AM
hey..yup..i agree..
its more for the exposure of the game and experience.=)

Anyway...When is the next comp for Canoe polo comming up?

TzeWee
16-04-2003, 12:47 PM
think most of us here is playing canoe polo more for the love of the game. with such a small playing field limited to only alumni's and varsity/polys, theres nothing much to hide. its a level playing field and sparring will only help to achieve a more exciting and enjoyable game=) it will only seek to force all competitors to be innovative and flexible to tactics and by watching better players in other schools play, improve their own personal skills( not only by watching but by learning and training)

a systematic plan to arrange friendly's is good but maybe a fixed place where we all can gather like once or twice in a mth for friendly wld be great. hopefully this place wld not eat into anyone's own poolslot and for the moment the only viable and free place is kallang i tink. maybe transportation and funding wld be a problem but everyone knew that this game aint cheap with money mainly from our own pockets.

i for one support more frequent games between teams..sometimes playing with the same team at ur own skol can be so boring...fresh opposition brings in new ideas and always never fail to lift the game up. but even in friendly or in competitions, we should all strive to play fairly and enjoy the game.

Lek
17-06-2003, 01:52 PM
I belief what we could do is to be more proactive and organize more friendly's amongst ourselves?

It'll be more like a chance to exchange pointers rather than having a competition that'll put the "not so experience" teams on the chopping board.

M@D
19-06-2003, 12:18 PM
From what I have read it seems that the thread have evolve from having a canoe polo league to organising games between the team captains.

How about this, someone volunteer to organise a canoe polo league to cover the 1st half of next year. Following that, we can have the nationals during the 2nd half of the year. Won't that mean that we can enjoy ourselves throughout the year and at the same time raise the standard of the game?

I think the biggest issue at this time is WHO is the one that is going to do all the work. If everyone only wants to play, but not organise, the standard of canoe polo will never improve much. Furthermore, with no one to organise and publicise the sport, it will just die down.

haloz
20-06-2003, 01:12 AM
I strongly agree to M@D suggestion of having two competitive seasons rather than one!!! However i am also aware that organising a competition is not at all easy!!! So why dun we start off having the captain of different teams to set up a committee like the current one and start planning!!!! :barbell:
Speaking sure is easy!!! So all the CAPTAINS out there u heard what i say START gathering togather and work on the league!!! :bgrinhat:

M@D
20-06-2003, 08:40 AM
would it be easier if the teams take turns to organise the league and the nationals? e.g. one team organising per year.
if not, it would b like this year's nationals, last min then organise.

ANYH
21-06-2003, 01:24 PM
PAddle Culture will be organising another tournament scehduled end of this year. ard Nov/Dec 2003.
this time will be a League, will be played on every saturday/sunday nites.

but the main problem is tat, the POOL at Big SPLash may b abit too small for 5v5.

more details wiil be revealed once approval from various authorities.

so stay tuned! :reindeer:

haloz
21-06-2003, 05:16 PM
Y are the ppl from paddle culture so keen on organising games or tournament at night??? Its so darn tiring and dark to play at BIG SPLASH!!!! :(
Y not try organising something in the day time so that the match officals will not fall asleep while refeering the game!!! :guns:

wizkid
23-06-2003, 01:09 AM
Yeah i agree !!


Morning pls hor!!! First, players dun get so tired. Second, Referees dun get so sleepy hence, more awake. Third, can see better. Not during those dark skies. Fourth, can sun bath !! Fifth, ppl will wear less clothes cos very hot! Wahahaahah .....Last but not least, MOST of the players are use to playing in the day!!!




:scratch:
Wizkid

ANYH
23-06-2003, 02:33 AM
we will try to cater to everyone's needs. :rolleyes:
the reason why we hafta play at nites cos we cannot always get the pool bookings in the daytime.

the Big SPlash management, :thumbdown dun know why, they always only allow us to play at nite lehh.......

never mind, PAddle Culture will go sort it out. :guns:

as far as im concern, I wud oso hope that we cud play the league from morning to nite!
at least dun haf 2 worry abt the public using the pool at nite.

stay tuned........

:barbell:

Noir
23-06-2003, 08:47 AM
I think it's coz' the pool at Big Splash is almost always being used for kayaking courses or something, that's why it's unavailable . . .

chengyu
24-06-2003, 01:30 PM
why cheng so SLACK??? as a polo enthu he shudd be org more leagues ritEee? plus he have a pool leh

haloz
22-07-2003, 03:21 PM
Well guys guess tis league is going to be a reality real soon!!!
Its currently in the early planning stages!!And its actually meant for the national team both male / female to raise funds for the trip to oceania and at the same time let them have some sparring partners!!! The competition is open to the top six teams in the upcoming championship!!! So work hard and look out here for furthur developments!!! :cheers:

ANYH
23-07-2003, 04:17 AM
u mean only top 6 teams can participate only??
wat abt the rest who are interested to take part?

angellover
23-07-2003, 04:03 PM
like us newbies!!! :bunny: *gRInZ*

playing at night is really FUN!!! :D den we'll b able to watch sunrise n sunset at east coast...! lol. haha, maybe monthly instead of weekly?? More time to train :)

ck~

haloz
23-07-2003, 04:26 PM
Well sad to say as the time grace in kallang is very limited, we have decided to include only the top 6 teams therefore anyone who wanna participate muz really work hard to get a place in the league!!! :headbang:

DaViDoNg
24-07-2003, 07:19 AM
i tot it mean to b bringing up s'pore standard, but y only 6 teams??? so sad:(

is there a way like gather all locals polo players to do publicity too???
jus a suggstion.... :twocents:

M@D
24-07-2003, 08:54 AM
I think this league is to give the nat. team a chance to train their tactics together, since they haven't the chance to do so often.
Take it as a pre-com training for the Oceania in oct. and the Asian canoeing champs in nov.

For the league that involves all the teams in singapore, must still wait for a brave soul to step forward to take up the task.

angellover
24-07-2003, 12:40 PM
*whisper* chengchengcheng *sits n waits* :reindeer:

haloz
01-08-2003, 04:40 PM
As voiced out by some people in the last meeting, I have decided not to meet the captains of all the clubs and teams, but instead wait till the national champs is over and the top teams have imerge!!!
By the way, I have to clarify that this league is not totally on fund raising only, its actually meant for the national teams to gel as a unit before heading for Aus. So pls give the fullest support!!! :headbang:
And train hard so that you can be part of the league!!! :barbell:

k-rex
18-07-2007, 05:51 AM
Maybe it's time for us to finally start a canoe polo league? I feel that the competitions we currently have are not enough. With only the SRRR and National Champs to look forward to, we might want to consider having a league as suggested by the people who posted this thread several years ago.

If you have taken the time to read the previous posts, you would have realized that the problem always lie with venue and organizations. May i suggest that with the future completion of the canoe polo facilities in Singapore Discovery Centre (SDC), we can organize a league for various schools.

The onus of organizing the league can be on the National team. But the support of various institutes are needed for this project to take off. We can task these institutes with various duties so as the National team is not alone in helping to develop the standard of canoe polo in S'pore.

One problem i see is the transportation of equipments to SDC. Personally, i feel that this is a small problem. Teams in Europe travel most than 100km just to play a few games over the weekend. I believe the money to hire a lorry can be shared equally among the players who want to participate in this league. Or better still if one of them has a company lorry that can be utilized during the weekend.

I would like to hear more from you people regarding this league issue. Comments both positive and negative are welcomed. I believe we can't progress if we keep on hearing good things about the organizing and development of our sports.

Personally i feel that canoe polo is developing because of the people who genuinely love this sports. Frankly speaking we aren't receiving a lot of help from the so call 'FEDERATION' if you know what i mean. Thus i hope that fellow canoe polo players who love this sports as much as i do can stand up and be counted.

Thank you.

wz.6
20-08-2007, 03:47 PM
definitely. there are only 2 competitions to look forward to in a year and its definitely not enough. whats more, now that nat champs this year is organised by all the schools. it shouldn't be too hard for everyone to come together to help in making this league possible. hope to see it materialise soon. (:

hanlong
20-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Yeah, i agree to it too. To improve the level of canoe polo in Singapore, there should be more competitions amongst the 5 schools so that we can learn more from each other. Lorry transportation, i think if everybody is willing to pay for the transportation, i think there shouldn't any problem. Maybe for the league, can play like fortnightly or something so that the budget won't be so high. And also, specific plannings like school exams and stuffs should be considered while planning for the league too. And seriously, i think SDC is really a wonderful place to have the future league & tournaments held there. :thumbup:

SP RAY
21-08-2007, 02:11 PM
yea i agree tat SDC is a wonderful place for the "league" or further tournaments to be held at. TO all that have not seen the wonderful playing area , head down and have a look!! Cheers> Maybe we can write more proposal to big organisations to support us finanically to build more wonderful playing area like wat we have at SDC. :)

hanlong
21-08-2007, 04:48 PM
so how can we actually get it started? have to form a small community first or something?

Evo7
22-08-2007, 02:27 PM
Yeah bros... It's a wonderful and splendid idea for the league to be held at Singapore Discovery Centre. The playing area and environment is ideal for all and the place is relatively clean and there are quite a few large fishes to be caught during fishing there as well. Plus, the playing area set up over there is well up to standard and goal posts are quite good too.


=)

miniALVIN
22-08-2007, 08:07 PM
ok! i volunteer to be the publicity/public relations/photographer for the canoepolo league committee!

i guess we need:

i) organiser
ii) treasurer
iii) secretary

wat else?

let's get things started right now!!! if we drag any longer... it will nv happen!!! come everyone! let's make it work!

i hope that RP, NYP and SIM can have canoe polo soon :)

SP RAY
23-08-2007, 07:30 AM
Well, i think it will be better if we discuss abt the committees during the upcoming nat champs where all the players in singapore gather together. Then we can get to know each other too! :)

miniALVIN
06-09-2007, 04:40 PM
nat champs is ending... but still no news abt league... haiz

player
13-09-2007, 04:58 AM
nat champs over. still got no one to start about the league...

ah^fu
13-09-2007, 11:08 AM
becos everyone jus wanna play, nobody wants to work...

Just some inputs to add on, then ppl can start gather n discuss, add on....

Firstly u need to appoint 'somebody' to be the chair person, most prob this guy do all the work n dun get to play. Then 'somebody' got to come out with a proposal.

Secondly, since alvin volunteer to be publicity/ pr, u need to come out with some plans to promote, create awareness, find means to fund the league if possible, probably can start off by writing articles to magazine n newspapers.

Thirdly SDC is not for u all to decide whether to use or not, 'somebody' got to write to SCF to get things started.

Fourthly, i suggest that 'somebody' write in to schs to get voluteers to do work, they can be linesman also, solve the problem of getting unwilling players to be lineman, create awareness to the public, then they can clock hrs for their CIP also.

So to start off u need to find 'somebody' la, maybe to reward this person we can name the league after him...lol tan ah beng canoepolo league
jus some consideration la, got so much more things to do, anyway, suggest that u all can go down each other sch to play the matches, like home n away, then get neutral party to witness, record scores all this, then the league prob will last for months...

i talk only...lol, always easier said than done

clarke
13-09-2007, 11:58 AM
yalorrrrr...

MiNie
17-09-2007, 02:23 PM
jux my 2cents worth of thoughts.

i think starting a league is something major. other than effort, it requires the environment and the surrounding to make it possible. take venue and time slots for example. having a nat champ is tough enough.

however, it might not be a mission impossible. we could start with more small little competitions like the 3-on-3 we had previously?
or if participants don't mind to go off without awards, we can have a period of time set out for "friendlies" where every school play against each other for position, den have the ranking set out by point system just like EPL. haha...

at least if there were more interactions among all institutions and clubs, a league might be possible in the near future.

Tong Lee
17-09-2007, 03:04 PM
A canoe polo league would definitely be good for singapore. But currently, I foresee a few problems and issues that may need to be resolved:

1. Is this league going to be a long-standing one? i.e. will it go on season after season? If so, then are the teams that take part going to be permanent or will they just join for one season, then disappear the next?

2. Should we allow just any team to register? Looking at the scale of the competition, I would say that for a start, a realistic target would be to have just 8 teams (open to expansion and accomodate more teams as we progress after the first season). So how do we choose between the teams if there are more than 8 interested teams? Maybe we can set the criteria that players must have at least 2 years of canoe polo experience?

3. I would suppose that just like other sports, the league will involve home and away games, i.e. each team will have its own home venue. Will this be a problem for those teams that do not have its own official training ground (e.g. those alumni teams)?

4. Even for existing poly's and uni's that have their own venue, there's still a problem with the playing area. Most organizations have goalposts that stand on land, and it is not exactly possible to have enough pool space for the substitute's area and 4m zones on each side of the goalpost. This means that most venues would not be able to set up a standard playing area that meets the official rules and regulations.

If we can resolve these issues, then perhaps we can look forward to starting something.

Let me take a break from the Nat'l Champs 1st. Mentally tired... Hehz...

Tong Lee

clarke
18-09-2007, 07:00 AM
its impossible to play everyweek. as most sch or club train on the week end. start small think easy 1st. play on one entire weekend once a month. if we calculate base on 20 teams. each team playing at least 1 game on each day that will be 20 games in total on a week end. if based on 10-3-10 format plus allowance for player who need longer time than others. that will be 30mins for each game. 20games X 30mins = 10hrs. which means 5hrs each day. due to the limitation from each sch department. i dont think its difficult to book 5hrs of training time on one sat & sun. according to the format. each team need to play 19games in total which will stretch to 10 months per season. which means rotating btw sp,nus,np,tp & maybe ntu swimming pool. so each sch only have to fork out twice in 10months. During the 10months, we have SRRR and Nat champ. which will require the league to stop 2 months. according to that. the league will stretch a entire year.

Yes its a long process. but isnt a league suppose to be like that. a year of hard work. b4 it start over again. ok now i will break it up for you to have a clearer picture. 1stly- COST, by playing only on a entire weekend once a month. it will save alot of transportation $.
2ndly, it will enable team to brush up when there is no game for 3 weeks each month, coming back stronger on league day. Lastly by playing a long league it will enable to team to gauge their standard month in, month out.
Hopefully a more competitive national champ as well a stronger national team to tok about.

of cos each team will pay to participate and money accumlate will used as prize money. this will have nothing to do with SCF. WHO WILL ONLY CREATE MORE PROBLEM. this league will consist help mainly from students ( job is to get approval fro sch for pool slot) and a few experience organiser like stan or tong lee.( just be there to advice) of cos some one to plan the shedule and ref.( i dun mind as long everyone help).

as for tong lee concern, most ppl are like that once they pay they will play.
Instead of being particular about the goalpost and delay the league, why not kick start now with what we have and improve down the years. most of us play with standing goalpost most of the time and look at how gd they are still.(libang, simon, yuxiang, jackson, tong lee, ken and the newer boys who dun know me).
Think of it as a monthly friendly with the rest of the team & you will be less hard on urself.make do with what you have, and it will taste sweeter.

ok hopefully i have solve the issue with goalpost and venue.

ah^fu
18-09-2007, 03:50 PM
yarlor, erm so who's going to do the work........

Tong Lee
18-09-2007, 04:30 PM
Hi Walter,

Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post. The issue with standing goalposts is more to do with substitute's area rather than anything else. The problem with standing goalposts, instead of floating ones is that we may most probably not have a proper substitute's area - there's not much space available.

So how do we deal with substitution? Specifically, how do we define a proper substitution and an illegal one? Especially when the space is so small, a slight move and a part of the substitute's kayak might just cross the goal frame.

Tong Lee

SongPeng
19-09-2007, 08:09 AM
Hi there,
good to see that someone is discussing this issue..
my experience in Australia, they are using the pool after open hrs..
i.e. from 9pm-10:30pm..hence can get cheapest rate cos they are constant customer for the pool..

but 1st need to establish a committee.. i think it is better for SCF to do this job.. have a talk with your chairperson Henry when we meet at Korea.. i think he is welling to give you guys a hand on this..

establish a committee is not just for the league.. another function for it will be development, arrange the time schedule for competition, organize referee and official course, etc etc.. you will need full authorize from SCF to do this. most importantly can keep the competition going.

just my point of view
song peng

haloz
19-09-2007, 11:23 AM
Hi there,
good to see that someone is discussing this issue..
my experience in Australia, they are using the pool after open hrs..
i.e. from 9pm-10:30pm..hence can get cheapest rate cos they are constant customer for the pool..

but 1st need to establish a committee.. i think it is better for SCF to do this job.. have a talk with your chairperson Henry when we meet at Korea.. i think he is welling to give you guys a hand on this..

establish a committee is not just for the league.. another function for it will be development, arrange the time schedule for competition, organize referee and official course, etc etc.. you will need full authorize from SCF to do this. most importantly can keep the competition going.

just my point of view
song peng

Well it so happen that in SGP SCF is not that helpful and with their INTERFERENCE the league is MORE unlikely to happen considering all the fundings they gonna have to folk out and it would just get knock straight down. If we work at a community level and play it would be way better off.

SongPeng
19-09-2007, 03:29 PM
Well it so happen that in SGP SCF is not that helpful and with their INTERFERENCE the league is MORE unlikely to happen considering all the fundings they gonna have to folk out and it would just get knock straight down. If we work at a community level and play it would be way better off.

it's quite a different story i listen from Mr Henry.. he told me that SCF is going to focus in polo.... and even want to put it into SEA games when singapore organize it... may be i am mistaken..

song peng

k-rex
19-09-2007, 03:54 PM
it's quite a different story i listen from Mr Henry.. he told me that SCF is going to focus in polo.... and even want to put it into SEA games when singapore organize it... may be i am mistaken..

song peng

That's the worst piece of crap i've heard for a very long time.

ah^fu
19-09-2007, 05:01 PM
it's quite a different story i listen from Mr Henry.. he told me that SCF is going to focus in polo.... and even want to put it into SEA games when singapore organize it... may be i am mistaken..

song peng


pardon me, i almost fall off from my chair when i saw the post....can't stop laughing...

hanlong
19-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Hi Walter,

Maybe I didn't make it clear in my last post. The issue with standing goalposts is more to do with substitute's area rather than anything else. The problem with standing goalposts, instead of floating ones is that we may most probably not have a proper substitute's area - there's not much space available.

So how do we deal with substitution? Specifically, how do we define a proper substitution and an illegal one? Especially when the space is so small, a slight move and a part of the substitute's kayak might just cross the goal frame.

Tong Lee


hi Tong Lee,

maybe we can make use of the side lines of the court? As we know, there may be 1 or 2 lanes that are not used. So maybe we can use the sidelines to be Sub-lines instead. Given a certain area for the players to subt. off.

SongPeng
21-09-2007, 01:45 AM
hi Tong Lee,

maybe we can make use of the side lines of the court? As we know, there may be 1 or 2 lanes that are not used. So maybe we can use the sidelines to be Sub-lines instead. Given a certain area for the players to subt. off.

or you can use very simple hanging goal frame! it may swing a bit but it's still very ok... and easy to setup and store.. then the goal line problem will be solve..

song peng

haloz
21-09-2007, 07:59 AM
or you can use very simple hanging goal frame! it may swing a bit but it's still very ok... and easy to setup and store.. then the goal line problem will be solve..

song peng

Hanging goal post defiantely will solve this problem we all expirence! but with this suggestion comes anot headache! WHOS gonna provide the cost to set this up? Asking SCF to come out with the FUND is DEFIANTELY MISSION IMPOSSIBLE unless someone is really willing to put up a good proposal where SCF will benefit in the long run and the feasibility of this league. So instead of trying to fight SCF without ammo, why not all the schools "upcoming captains" seat down and be this league committee, and from then committee can than be handed down from generation to generation with ease. With a running and working league we can than ask SCF for FUNDS to solve the existing problems. Think! Organising a year long event speaks loudly for anyones' Portfolio for future work endeavour although its extremely tough work! This format can let the current school captains decide if their successor is of capability and if a change is needed! And if the committee needs help to do the scores and some admin, we can rotate among the participating teams every month to take charge of the scores and points system so each team will only have to contribute about 2 hours of their time during the whole season and help lightening the load on the committee members.

Just some brief ideas and I feel that a league for a whole year is definately feasible!

Seriously just need someone to start the ball rolling SGP polo will improve!

player
24-09-2007, 04:29 PM
That's the worst piece of crap i've heard for a very long time.

hell yeah agree tts the lousiest and worst piece of crap we've heard for a very long time. :thumbdown

player
24-09-2007, 04:33 PM
think up till now this sport is still so unknown to many is because lack of publications and support. big organisations like Singapore Sports Council and SCF. we are directly under them if we dun get any support from them den we have no one else to seek to !

SongPeng
25-09-2007, 02:24 AM
Hi there,
i don't think organize a year long league is a good idea..
it's just too long.. should have a break or two..
i think 3-4 months per league (which you can organize it twice per year)
and during the break can organize national champ or Asia champ/invitation..
and also can give you a break to do other thing..

also for the way to make money..
other than register fees and attract sponsor (i am very kind to sponsor u the hanging goal post, but with adv condition)
you can also:
1) renting the equipment, whole season for SD50 or so.. (not the paddle.. i heard that SCF got some fibre Vamp)
2) selling food or drink during grand final or during games..
3) print the schedule with news for canoe polo and referee rules, and sell it..

song peng

Evo7
27-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Song Peng, r u freakin sure SCF is WILLING to support canoe polo? hahaHA, i doubt so

Evo7
27-09-2007, 04:51 AM
Song Peng, firstly our main focus is not about making revenue in the first place. It's for e love of e sport..
Secondly, we are having too much breaks in canoe polo.. lolx, it's ironic for u to be tokin abt having breaks here and there and makin money for a sport we love..

clarke
27-09-2007, 10:17 AM
i think u got the wrong idea. song peng thot we are the one who wans to make money that leading to him giving us some idea which i think is good too( i intend to set up drink and food stall during SRRR " ah shui xiao shi") hahah. you make me ponder about certain thing. love for sport doesnt mean you cant have money involved. look at top pros. prize money, club salary, advertising. love for sport means you train harder, give your 120%, always willing to learn no matter how gd you are. in short you eat, sleep dream watever you crave for

maybe i should be disgusted with my little drink and food stall idea since its ironic that money come into the picture. how about the whole sg canoepolo pray for me everynight to strike the coming big sweep top prize ( must be only me winning it ). i make a promise here to sponsor the league ok? please lah give me a chance.

it will indeed be ironic that it was money that kickstart the league.


P.S.
ANYONE SELLING FOOD AND DRINKs DURING SRRR OTHER THAN ME please feel free to start a partnership with me.

Evo7
27-09-2007, 12:10 PM
haha.. yes yes, maybe he got e wrong idea...
nevertheless money can't work out for sportsmen or student atheletes in singapore as it is way too little.. lolx

hanlong
28-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Lol...Can i have free drinks & food walter? We use the same boat! haha :D

So seriously, how do we get the league to even start? How do we appoint the duties that each school has to do? Are the whole canoe polo community in singapore looking at this thread and thinking of ways to get this whole thing started?

Sp, np, tp, ntu, nus...may the in-charge or captains reply or do something about it? organise something!

And also, from what i heard of, TP's swimming pool is also going to close for renovation. In this case, how do we do the schedul-ing for home & away games?



Cheers,

Hanlong

MiNie
29-09-2007, 05:50 PM
tp's pool is closing soon, and will close for almost 2 months. if anybody organise something by the time its set, tp's pool will probably be done by den. but tp will be like...never train for something...hahaha.

player
30-09-2007, 03:57 PM
SP's pool have been closed since april. till late jan maybe ? so can someone pls organise something too ?

hanlong
30-09-2007, 04:19 PM
SP's pool have been closed since april. till late jan maybe ? so can someone pls organise something too ?


Lol daren, no worries lah. I think by the time when our pool reopen, the league is still not organised or set up. Lol! :p

haloz
01-10-2007, 12:13 AM
the objective of the league to improve the overal standard of our game by having regular matches against opponenants outside of ur school! I think there is not much of a problem even if the school's pool is close. So wat if we SPians or TPians have to play every match away from home! Isnt it better that way? Playing in hostile enviroment will train us to be mentally stronger.

Why dont the Capt of the current SP team gather the last championship committee and start the ball rolling? U have all the contacts of the member as you where part of it, instead of waiting for things to happen? Seriously all you guys have to meet up and agree on is how much u guys wanna charge the participating teams? The entry fee is to get the prizes for the Champion team, maybe some misc admin stuff to keep record of the results? Try working out a deal with a logistic company to be in charge of the whole league's boat transportation which will solve the problem with regards to the transportation of boat and charge it in the entry fee. Negotiate a price for the whole league with the logistic company more often than not you will find that they will give you a very good price for it as its a guaranteed income for them. :D

just my :twocents::twocents:!

SongPeng
10-10-2007, 02:43 AM
Song Peng, firstly our main focus is not about making revenue in the first place. It's for e love of e sport..
Secondly, we are having too much breaks in canoe polo.. lolx, it's ironic for u to be tokin abt having breaks here and there and makin money for a sport we love..

Hi there,
1st i love this game too.. that's why i giving you the suggestions....
2nd those money making ideas are actually not my idea.. it's what Melbourne league do.. you will need money to run the league (repair the equipmentsss, rent the pool, pay the allowance, etc).. instead of getting it from other place (like SCF) why don't let the league make the money itself.
3rd year long league is really too long.. at first everyone will have a passion.. but will they still have passion after 6 months? not very one can make it.. that's why need to have a break to recharge..

just my point of view...

songpeng

miniALVIN
21-11-2007, 01:11 PM
still no news on polo league.... aiyoyo... :thumbdown

miniALVIN
15-12-2007, 04:49 PM
hello ppl.... i have a question to ask......
if we were to have polo league... and the guys teams i think will have alot changes cuz like there will be ppl going army n the team will somehow split up... then those not going army yet how??? i am sure some of u understand wat i mean... but i know teams like rookies n red tide is more or less fixed...