DPP Dynamic

[Johan23]

Hello Friends,

I am looking to purchase a dynamic polo kayak however just have a few questions on it.

1- Do people find that the weight of it affects their play? 10kg is more than most polo boats.

2- What it is like for manouverability/turning and straight line speed compared to other boats, i.e flight 2, revenge, mega, vampire.

3- What difference do the integrated bumpersc make? Surely the nose would dip easier, but that could be a bad thing because when sprinting there would be more drag. Is it mor tippy etc etc.

Thankyou in advance for your responses

Johan

[dunkymunky]

i would be interested in the answers to some of these questions if someone wouldnt mind answering them...

[michielv]

Hello Friends,

I am looking to purchase a dynamic polo kayak however just have a few questions on it.

1- Do people find that the weight of it affects their play? 10kg is more than most polo boats.


First, I don't own a Dynamic, neither have I even paddled one.

But my kevlar Kayaksplus Vampire 2001 weighs about 10.5 kg so I can answer the question on weight I guess. Most lighter weight boats get damaged and unless you can afford to buy a new boat as soon as that happens you need to repair it. Thus, your boat will get heavier (usually, because reapring means adding material to the boat). Almost bomb-proof boats like the Dynamic or the Kevlar Vampires don't get damaged so easily so their weight does not increase. Besides, a lighter weight boat usually means less material used and it is slightly more fragile. So it gets damaged easier than a boat that has a stronger (but slightly heavier) layup.

Other than that I think design and whether that fits your personal taste in paddling is more of a factor whether the boat suits your needs.

Wehn I bought the Vampire I wanted a boat that was almost bomb-proof. The Dynamic was not on the market yet so I got the Vampire. It paddles great, no fears about it getting damaged (there is still not even a crack in the boat! Although I used it for 3 years of multiple times per week playing polo and several years of fitnesspaddling afterwards).

Sometimes it is just easier to go get that ball knowing your gear will be able to hold its own. If you have to back off fearing your boat will get damaged or something your playing is affected as well.

As for the other questions: I would suggest simply test drive the boat if you can? See if you can visit a tournament where the DKV guys are and ask Wouter if you can test his boat?

My guess is that the integrated bumpers are part of the design of the boat so the rocker etc. is adjusted to counter the loss of volume. But Wouter can tell you all about that :thumbup:

[MDT]

Hi Johan

I ´had my Dynamic delivered back in May this year and so I have played more or less one full season in it. In general I am very very happy with the boat. It has both advantages and disadvantages in design and it is important to be aware of this before buying.

First off I am about 95 kg.

1- Does the weight affect play?
I find that the weight does not really affect my play. I am sure that accelaration from stand still is a little bit slower than a lighter boat would offer. However the design of the Dynamic makes it fast once you are past those first strokes. I have no problems with this.


2- What it is like for manouverability/turning and straight line speed compared to other boats, i.e flight 2, revenge, mega, vampire.
Straight line speed is excellent (see above). The main feature of the boat is its nose control. This is great for press play and general gives a lot of advantages when jostlling.

The big disadvantage of the boat is that it requires a lot of muscle and regular practise to row efficiently. Due to the low nose you have to paddle quite hard to pull it out of the water and avoid drag. This means sprinting at anytime you need speed and it also means that you have to be very fit.

Secondly it is also requires much more effort to stern turn than any other boat I have tried. Not a problem if you have the muscle and plenty of practise. But if not you will find yourself slow in turnaround situations and man/man situations.


3- What difference do the integrated bumpersc make? Surely the nose would dip easier, but that could be a bad thing because when sprinting there would be more drag. Is it mor tippy etc etc.

My Dynamic is without integrated bumbers but I am sure those are only an advantage in speed. The boat is quite stable (not tippy).

Overall I am happy with the boat. My skill level and level of practise is actually too low and thus I suffer some of the disadvantages mentionned above.I would say that the boat requires 3-4 times practise pr. week - and then it is fantastic.

On the other hand I have too litle time too practise and absolutely no time for repair and maintenance. The Dynamic is more or less bomb proof and this is an important feature for me.... and I do love that nose control.


Hope this helps your decision making process

Michael

[weight]

am I the only one that has realised that the ranges of weights of polo boats go from 8 to 11 kg and that 3 kg of difference are quite ridiculous contrasted to the 70-100 kg of a polo player????

[MDT]

No, I suspect that you are probably not alone in the world with that particular observation.

Weight will make a difference even if it is marginal.

I personally think the boatdesign is much more important than weight but both are factors. Just look at other sports equipment and how much effort goes into reducing the weight of bikes or running shoes where you have much of the same situation.

[bystander]

The big disadvantage of the boat is that it requires a lot of muscle and regular practise to row efficiently. Due to the low nose you have to paddle quite hard to pull it out of the water and avoid drag. This means sprinting at anytime you need speed and it also means that you have to be very fit.
l
this muscley guy clearly know's what he's talking about, he rows his kayak with his muscles and he's quite obviously a fine specimen of an athlete to be able to sprint in the abominably heavy dynamic.